AI and judgmentNovember 3, 20251 hr 56 min

The MikeyG Podcast Experience

Brian and Glider - From MIT, To Wall Street to Building DeFi Infrastructure

BrianCo-founder of Glider and former high-frequency trader

Portrait of Brian

Brian grew up in suburban Maryland obsessed with Math and Science and learning that cold 6 AM swim practices taught grit more than competition ever could. After MIT's collaborative culture shock and a brief stint as a bond trader at Morgan Stanley, he spent years in high-frequency trading before co-founding Glider.

Brian grew up in suburban Maryland obsessed with Math and Science and learning that cold 6 AM swim practices taught grit more than competition ever could. After MIT's collaborative culture shock and a brief stint as a bond trader at Morgan Stanley, he spent years in high-frequency trading before co-founding Glider. A DeFi infrastructure he describes as "React for DeFi." In this conversation, he breaks down why AI trading agents have a long way to go (but financial planning agents don't), how he found his co-founder through a 4-year recruiter relationship, and why traditional finance is a dying industry that blockchain will overwrite.

The story of Brian

Math, science, swimming, and a collaborative MIT culture

Brian grew up in suburban Maryland with an early interest in math, science, and puzzles. A public elementary program taught part of each day in Chinese, including mathematics, which made analytical work feel exploratory rather than routine. He also swam, and the repeated demand of cold early practices taught him to do difficult work even when competition itself was not his primary motivation.

At MIT he combined computer science with finance. The school surprised him by feeling more collaborative and merit based than the competitive academic culture he had expected. That environment strengthened his interest in markets, technical systems, and the question of why people make particular financial decisions.

Leaving Wall Street for more technical work

An internship led Brian to a bond trading job at Morgan Stanley. He arrived early, worked long days, and quickly found that the role did not provide the intellectual stimulation he wanted. After ten months, he left for a high-frequency trading firm where he could write code and work across stocks, futures, commodities, foreign exchange, and some crypto.

The move gave him a direct comparison between a large financial institution and a smaller technical organization. It also exposed how many intermediaries, approvals, fees, and operational layers sit inside traditional finance. Rather than treating the short Wall Street tenure as wasted time, he used it to understand which systems he wanted to replace and what kind of team culture he preferred.

Building self-custodied investment tools at Glider

Brian now builds Glider with a co-founder whose product and marketing strengths complement his technical and financial background. Glider lets users create baskets of onchain assets that can rebalance automatically without leaving the user's custody. The product removes much of the language and friction around gas, bridging, signing, and custody, while its application programming interface lets other products embed portfolios and strategies.

Brian describes the underlying building blocks as a reusable language for decentralized finance. He is also cautious about AI trading claims. The team has tested systems that can assemble diversified portfolios, but he distinguishes useful assistance from reliable autonomous action and does not present current language models as consistently capable of managing complex strategies without oversight.

Three ideas

What stays with you

  1. 01

    A short bond trading tenure clarified Brian's preference for technical work and exposed the friction inside traditional finance.

  2. 02

    Glider keeps assets in user custody while supporting automated rebalancing and embeddable portfolio strategies.

  3. 03

    Brian sees AI as useful for financial assistance but remains cautious about autonomous trading decisions.