Human connectionMay 27, 20261 hr 17 min

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Will Human Decision-Making Become Illegal? | Igor on Responsible AI

Igor Van GemertTechnologist and responsible AI systems thinker

Portrait of Igor Van Gemert

Igor talks about taking systems apart, rebuilding his own life, and why boredom may protect something deeply human.

Igor moves from a childhood spent dismantling electronics to military service, virtual infrastructure, energy systems, and responsible AI. Along the way, he describes the emptiness that followed outward success, the need to start again, and why boredom, explainability, and human judgment matter as automated systems take on more responsibility.

The story of Igor Van Gemert

Taking systems apart came naturally

Igor grew up taking systems apart, reading about great inventions, and feeling more at home with technical questions than the conversations around him. He credits curiosity and passion, but also something less celebrated: absolute boredom. When no useful problem existed, he learned to make one and then see whether he could solve it.

Outward success created an empty room

That instinct carried him through military service, critical infrastructure, energy systems, cybersecurity, and virtual worlds. Visible success eventually produced its own empty space, forcing a reconsideration of what he was building and how he wanted to live. Starting over became a systems decision applied to the self.

Human judgment became the frontier

Igor’s current work sits at the boundary between machine speed and human wisdom. He argues for explainable systems, multiple-model consensus, and governance that can show how a decision was reached. His most provocative claim is not that machines will think like people, but that unexplained human decisions may become unacceptable in regulated environments.

Three ideas

What stays with you

  1. 01

    Boredom can protect curiosity and independent thought.

  2. 02

    Technical systems need explainability before they gain authority.

  3. 03

    Starting over can be an operating decision, not only a personal crisis.