Human connectionOctober 6, 20252 hr 6 min

The MikeyG Podcast Experience

Nick and Wav3 - Building the Future of Music and Why Artists Deserve Better

NickFounder of Wav3 and music technology builder

Portrait of Nick

Nick grew up watching his trumpet-playing mom get ostracized at 19 in Louisianna and experiences that taught him "you can't be happy when" after watching his grandmother die the day her dream house was finished. His journey included fashion industry exploitation, forex trading, building Web3 projects, and living full-time in an RV with his wife and toddler.

Nick grew up watching his trumpet-playing mom get ostracized at 19 in Louisianna and experiences that taught him "you can't be happy when" after watching his grandmother die the day her dream house was finished. His journey included fashion industry exploitation, forex trading, building Web3 projects, and living full-time in an RV with his wife and toddler. Now he's building Wave: a platform that rewards people for listening to music while empowering artists to create authentically instead of chasing algorithmic trends. This conversation unpacks childhood trauma bonds, the death of complacency, what real community means beyond Discord channels, and why the music industry's incentive structure is fundamentally broken.

The story of Nick

Music, instability, and an insistence on living now

Nick grew up in Louisiana with a young mother who played trumpet, sang, worked several jobs, and filled his childhood with music. Early losses and family disruptions made change difficult, while faith and a supportive stepfather gave him structure. He learned about 15 instruments, performed in ensembles, and tried to build a future through music even though his family lived paycheck to paycheck.

A relative's death on the day a long-awaited home was completed changed how he thought about deferred happiness. He stopped treating retirement or a distant milestone as the point when life could begin. That outlook also appeared in smaller childhood projects, from saving money for a backyard half-pipe to finding simple services he could provide at local sporting events.

Isolation, entertainment funnels, and a costly Web3 lesson

After college and a car accident, Nick moved through plant work, music, sales, fashion and entertainment production, and digital advertising. Constant travel taught him how funnels, audience behavior, websites, email, and paid media worked, but it also separated him from lasting community and exposed relationships built around access rather than trust. He later entered foreign exchange trading and Web3, launched a project, raised capital, and hired a large contractor network.

The product was ambitious, but production slowed when operating reserves and cash flow could not support the vision. Launch windows were missed while the team pursued perfection and the market changed after the pandemic. Nick carried those lessons into his next company: protect the operating runway, release work before it feels complete, and let participants share real risk rather than merely observe from a chat.

Rewarding listeners and authentic artists through Wav3

Wav3 rewards people for listening through services they already use, including Spotify, Apple Music, and Amazon Music. A listener connects an account, continues normal listening, and can return to the platform to view earned rewards. Nick's first goal is to build a large audience whose listening activity creates a taste graph for music discovery.

The longer-term model is meant to help artists create without optimizing every song for current algorithmic formats. He describes a future process in which listeners encounter music without relying first on the artist's identity, and their response helps determine which work receives further promotion or tokenization. The product brings together his training as a musician, his experience with advertising data, and his concern that the music industry's current incentives reward distribution tactics more reliably than authentic creation.

Nick describes Wav3’s Genesis-license sale as an alternative to VC or accelerator funding. In the interview, he says community financing would give the team room to fund rewards and make operating decisions without bringing in parties whose incentives differ from its own. This was his proposed funding approach, not a demonstrated financial outcome. Listen at 1:54:20

Three ideas

What stays with you

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    Music, family disruption, and early loss shaped Nick's belief that life cannot be postponed until a distant milestone.

  2. 02

    An ambitious Web3 project taught him to protect cash flow, ship earlier, and share meaningful participation with a community.

  3. 03

    Wav3 uses ordinary listening activity to reward users and build a new discovery layer for artists.